I have tried A LOT of products over the years for my shoulder and knee pain, topicals, tinctures, over the counter types, etc., and nothing has worked very well, or for very long if it did. After reading about Conolidine and Game Day Ready, I hesitantly ordered some CONOB2. It is by far the best thing I have found! I am a believer for sure. So glad I stumbled across this product!